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77nighthawk wrote:The problem I'm running into with the vinyl is, that vinyl was a special print for GM, and nobody is making anything similar. I'm going to experiment with different paints, to see if I can get the same effect. But, for now, I'm just going to concentrate on the drivetrain, when I have time and money.
Hi Brian,
My program manager has gathered the below history and information. We also suggest that you go to a company called VisCo if you do get the artwork created for a product to be made.
Hope this helps.
Thanks Brian!
Yup, I remember seeing it before.
Even if someone has the tools to build it though, which I doubt, it's going to be expensive. This kit was produced on 3M Scotchlite material, which is retroreflective like the street signs, which is expensive material, and the ink is also more expensive.
I've been in the business since 1973. For a 1977 vehicle we are likely looking for something that was built long before we had any of the computer systems we use today in place. GM may have been using CAD, most of their suppliers weren't. A lot of hand drawings etc. Back in the 70's the artwork that is used to make the screening positives, which are used to print the image, were all done by hand using a knife and a film called rubylith. That old screening art is long gone I'm afraid.
Blaine and I were just looking through some of our old CAD files and found several from the early 80's but nothing that went back to the 70's. The files from the early 80's look like they were digitized versions of the artwork that had been hand cut but we weren't able to find anything specific to this vehicle. So even though our records showed it as an 80's program, they could've been from something earlier.
So with that in mind, just for the heck of it and to be thorough, I used the customer part numbers noted in the image you sent me to do a search in the ASSE&TS database system. As you know this is where we used to keep all of our part number details. Sorry to report that couldn't find anything with these part numbers. I even tried some different variations and wild cards. Still came up blank.
I'm impressed the Brian was able to get the drawings that he was able to get.
What I think Brian is going to need to do is find someone that is willing to digitize either the drawings that he has (what's here won't work), or parts off a vehicle. Then he'll need to find someone that can use that to make screening art, print and cut the parts. The cutting operation can be done digitally, the artwork can be digitally produced as well, but overall part shapes and images will be needed. Whoever prints for him will need to print using the 3M Scotchlite materials, or something very similar, in order to match what was done before.
The nice thing for him is once he has part shapes he should be able to find someone that can help him through the next steps. And if they end up screwing up along the way he has something to go to someone else with.
There is a slight chance that we have one of these on a Sample board in 209. I'm planning on going over there in the next week or so and will make a point of looking for it. It won't be the full kit though.
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