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New Monza Owner - Where is Data Tag? Monza Mirage Questions

Postby fas141 » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:19 pm

Hey all, New to the board. I just purchased a 77 Monza and think it is a Mirage but not 100% sure. I am trying to find the data tag to check but do not see it anywhere? Where should it be? Thanks!
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Re: New Monza Owner - Where is Data Tag?

Postby 79MonzaSpyder » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:22 pm

The body tag should be on the cowl area under the hood on the driver side.
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Re: New Monza Owner - Where is Data Tag?

Postby fas141 » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:39 pm

I do not see anything so someone probably took it off.. How about these pics? are the body panels held on with rivets like this?
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Re: New Monza Owner - Where is Data Tag?

Postby 79MonzaSpyder » Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:39 pm

Unfortunately I don’t have a Mirage nor have I ever seen one in person. Hopefully someone else with more Mirage knowledge will pipe in and help with that. If the body tag is missing then you could still look for a build sheet. From what I have learned build sheets were not supposed to be left in the cars but they were commonly left in, most common spots to find one, under the carpet, under the sear or between the seat upholstery and the foam or on top of the gas tank. Some one with a Mirage will likely be able to help you narrow down if it’s a genuine Mirage or a Monza that someone installed some Mirage panels onto. The mirage also has a very different front air dam than the rest of the H Body’s.see attached pic, not my car, Susan, I hope you are ok with me sending this for reference purposes.
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Re: New Monza Owner - Where is Data Tag?

Postby cjbiagi » Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:12 pm

Some of the tags are mounted in the middle of the cowl.
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Re: New Monza Owner - Where is Data Tag?

Postby fas141 » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:32 am

Thanks for your help, I appreciate it. Any help in identifying to find out if my car is a Mirage also appreciated.
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Re: New Monza Owner - Where is Data Tag? Monza Mirage Questi

Postby stage169 » Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:07 am

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Re: New Monza Owner - Where is Data Tag? Monza Mirage Questi

Postby stage169 » Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:15 am

Try looking for the build sheet. You can also contact Vintage Vehicle Services in Canada and get factory documents for the options on your car. If you do that mention that you believe it is a Mirage and should have the ZX1 RPO interrupt shipment code.

One good thing to look at is the cowl area. The only part of the cowl that was painted was the blue when it comes to the original stripes. Look for blue there, the rest of the stripes are decals so....
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Re: New Monza Owner - Where is Data Tag? Monza Mirage Questi

Postby 283vega » Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:14 pm

Didnt mirages have a id/ label on the drivers door or strike?
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Re: New Monza Owner - Where is Data Tag? Monza Mirage Questi

Postby fas141 » Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:32 pm

Yes, but doors were swapped out. It does have the gauge package and is a factory 305 4-speed car.
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Re: New Monza Owner - Where is Data Tag? Monza Mirage Questi

Postby classic_cruiser » Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:44 am

I do not recall ever seeing mirage panels "rivited" on like that in the pictures I've seen, but I am no expert on the Mirage package. There are some threads on this forum about authenticating Mirage models somewhere.

I can't quite tell, but is it wearing Pontiac snowflake rims?
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Re: New Monza Owner - Where is Data Tag? Monza Mirage Questi

Postby cjbiagi » Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:22 pm

I am no expert on Mirage's either but there should be mounting strips that attach to the fenders that hold the panels on. The rivets on the front spoiler don't appear factory either.
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Re: New Monza Owner - Where is Data Tag? Monza Mirage Questi

Postby fas141 » Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:44 pm

There were some brackets for the rear spoiler, but as far as the side body panels go they were just bonded on.
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Re: New Monza Owner - Where is Data Tag? Monza Mirage Questi

Postby stage169 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:22 am

So what have you found out about your car being a Mirage or not? See any blue paint over spray on the cowl area?

Found this years ago, if you follow the link go to the bottom and click images. https://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Par ... PN/4115974
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Re: New Monza Owner - Where is Data Tag? Monza Mirage Questi

Postby fas141 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:50 pm

I'm pretty sure it is a Mirage. White, Red interior V8 4-speed full gauge package. I actually took off all the Mirage body panels and revealed very nice original white paint underneath. The rivets are/were not a factory thing. I am contacting Vintage Vehicle Services now to see if they can run my VIN and come up with anything.
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